"Real meaning of life...stuff" - Daniel Jackson
Monday, December 31, 2007

I can understand why a student might feel threatened when a fellow student angrely rips up a symbol of her belief system right in front of her.

Quote from the article:

Some Janesville parents said that they're concerned that in this incident, in which a student allegedly tore pages from a Bible, the balance between the two was tipped toward the First Amendment, WISC-TV reported.

As many Parker High School students get ready for Christmas break, junior Elle Jacobson is at home and will not be returning like her friends.

"I have never felt threatened like that in a classroom before," said Jacobson.

The 17-year-old is talking about an incident in her English class two weeks ago during a class presentation.

"This boy got up and his visual aid was a Bible and a book. And he got up and started his speech by saying 'Now, this piece of crap' and pointed to the Bible."

Jacobson said that she quickly felt threatened

"He took the Bible and he said, 'I'm going to do this because I can. I'm going to do something that your stupid, little minds aren't going to be able to comprehend and he took the Bible and started ripping out pages."

Does that mean that I think the student meant to threaten the other students?  I don't assume so.  As a matter of fact, I think there's a case to be made for temporary insanity.  The boy is a teenager going through an Ayn Rand phase.  Of course he's selfish, arrogant, self-centered and has a need to elevate himself and demean the others around him, and of course that need has a slightly destructive and sadistic edge to it.  Don't worry, they usually reach their peak with Atlas Shrugged, and fall off somewhere in the middle of The Fountainhead.  And even if they don't, they become too busy trolling websites in support of Ron Paul to be a real threat to anyone.

But in a culture where many Christians are constantly trained to expect that everyone hates them, that they are on the verge of terrible persecution, and are trained to expect hate and violence as the consequence of their beliefs...is it any wonder that the students felt threatened?

Even without that indoctrination and training, if you see a symbol of your identity attacked in front of you in this way, it is threatening.

People should probably try to avoid doing things that a reasonable person would find threatening.  Especially in school, where people should feel safe.

The father in this instance is outraged that the school is being careful of the boy's constitutional right to free speech, and feels that they are compromising his daughter's safety.  I wonder if he would feel the same way if someone got kicked out of school for wearing a tee-shirt with certain laws from Leviticus printed on them?

 And I even though I can understand how the girl might feel threatened by the boy's actions...what's with letting her stay home?  I don't see any reason to believe that she is actually in any real danger from a book-ripping Rand-head.

Seems to me that there's a fair amount of silliness on all sides of this issue.  If only they could talk about the issues, find some common ground, share a goal...

Now, let me see...who could bring these two camps together...Christians with a strong reverance for the Bible as a holy relic to be venerated above free speech...and impulsive drama-prone Ayn Rand fans with a crusader complex...

YES!  Ron Paul!  He is the answer!  He alone can heal this terrible rift.

(Hat Tip: Pharyngula)

Monday, December 31, 2007 1:02:58 AM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00) | Comments [7] |  |  |  | #
Wednesday, January 02, 2008 1:43:19 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
My Dear Teresa

Are you making the Ron Paul references just for me? Because you know I'm *that* self-centered. I'm an Ayn Rand fan, too!

Your reference to the collective hatred of Christians is pure bliss.

Oh, I feel so overwhelmed by the generosity of this post. It's like a late Christima... um - Holiday - gift.

Happy New Year, Teresa! I look forward to bashing you with Paul's successes. LOL! Hey, I can always hope, can't I? The Nexus thread is tearing a hole in the political spectrum! Captain Paul to the rescue!

Sorry, I'm still hungover from all the Christm... Holiday parties!

Keep up the good work. This post is a beaut.
Mark
Wednesday, January 02, 2008 5:56:51 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Trees, you need to call Orkin and have them come spray. You've got trolls.
Bob Wagner
Wednesday, January 02, 2008 6:16:48 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Mark,

I must admit, I had missd you and was trying to draw you out with the Ron Paul referance...but I probably would have made it anyway, because - hey! He's just THERE.

I myself think that Ayn Rand's work had many admirable attributes, but like any philosophy, it took a bunch of obvious foundational concepts and then proceeded to spread them to such increadible thinness in order to cover all of reality in some sort of Grand Unification Theory of the laws of morality, economics politics and personal hygine, etc. that they snapped under the pure tensile strain of it.

Plus, I find the sado-masochism idea that all women are just looking for the man rugged enough to dominate them more than a tad creepy...

But one can see why it appeals to a certain segment of the population. I just can't figure why generally good-willed people like you seem to buy it.

Ah well...

Hope your head feels better soon. Mine probably won't for a while.
Teresa
Wednesday, January 02, 2008 6:18:34 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Bob,

I don't thnk Mark is trolling in this particular instance. If so, it would be kind of passive-agressive trolling, which isn't his style. He usually hits with both barrals if he wants to hurl invective.

Seems like the nod toward excessive Christmas Cheer is the more likely explination. ;-)
Teresa
Wednesday, January 02, 2008 9:24:23 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
No trolling here. I really did like the post. Besides, you'd need a bit more than Orkin to rid of me.

BTW - I haven't read enough of Ayn Rand to "buy it." I just like the general attributes... I find that when you dig deep enough, any philosophy has plenty of flaws. All we can do is all we can do. All I can do right now, it seems, is babble.

l8r
Mark
Wednesday, January 02, 2008 9:52:28 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Mark,

Well, you're not a religious nut and not a racist or a homophobe...but you're still a raging Libertarian and Ron Paul supporter...so all that really leaves is hard-core objectivist...so you'll have to excuse the assumption.

;-)

I've got one percolating that you'll really like.
Teresa
Thursday, January 03, 2008 8:07:15 AM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Objectivist is an OK title for me - I just wouldn't say "hard core."

I can't wait to see what's percolating. It smells delicious!
Mark
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