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Thursday, 10 March 2005

To quote The Evil Cub from the comments section of This Post:

 

Anyway, how about a topic we can discuss. Something I really like both of these characters for is that they are both scientists who are given roles in which they can demonstrate they are as able as any action hero, when typically in American television, the 'smart guy' is a wuss who can only possibly survive because of the protection the lunk-headed 'hero' has to offer him. Huzzah for the brainy hero!

 

Cub,

 

Amen to that.

 

     But that’s what I love about Stargate SG-1 in general.  All of the characters are whole people.

 

     Daniel is at heart a seeker of knowledge, but in his search for knowledge he has found a mission, and in pursuing his mission he’s faced hardships and challenges, and he’s had to make tough, heartbreaking decisions, and he’s gained wisdom…and he’s learned from Jack that some things you just have to fight for and that anything is a weapon and there are some fights you just can’t avoid…so it is important to use everything you have at your disposal to complete your mission.  So while he isn’t a fighter by nature, he has become one, an applies his new skills with the discernment and discipline of a scholar.

 

     Jack is a man of action, but he’s also a dreamer and a romantic.  He comes off as a lunkhead…but we’ve seen that when he decides to learn something, he does it very quickly.  The fact that he focuses on his area of expertise is more a matter of temperament and vocation than an inability to do anything else.  When he doesn’t have Sam or Daniel around to be the eggheads he takes on as much of that role as necessary to do any given job right…and while he has little intellectual curiosity, he is very creative, mentally flexible, and thinks quickly.  So while he isn’t a scholar by nature, he recognizes the value of what they’ve learned, and applies those lessons with the tactical mind of a soldier.

 

     Teal’c, supposedly a primitive, yet is their guide a highly advanced technology; reads several ancient languages; a human tank, and yet a brilliant strategic and tactical thinker, and a stoic philosopher who nonetheless has very deep and vulnerable emotions…and a fine male specimen I might add, although I don’t personally go for men who are quite that…lumpy…I know, I’m weird.  Don’t get me wrong, fitness is important but that’s just…too much of a good thing.  But I digress.  He’s got this warrior-philosopher Zen thing going on, and while other shows would have used him as indestructible cannon-fodder, this show has developed his character as a real person.

 

     Last but not least, Sam.  She’s just the coolest character.  She can kick all the ass in the world, but she’s still incredibly feminine.  She’s got that no-nonsense suburban mom hairstyle, yet she’s gorgeous.  And she’s the perfect balance between Jack and Daniel…naturally balancing the practicality and ruthlessness she shares with Jack and the intellectual curiosity and the moral/ethical compass she shares with Daniel.  And I absolutely LOVE that she has the confidence to blow up a freaking sun, but can’t work up the courage to fall in love with a man she can have a real relationship with…and her just plain bald-faced self-doubt and insecurity over being the new team leader is very refreshing.  She knows she screwed up when she didn’t just destroy her replicator self.  Nobody else will say it, but it was a bad call, and not a mistake that Jack would have made…and Daniel paid for it and when Sam finds out that that Daniel is dead because of it, it’s going to put her through hell…and Jack’s going to have to hold her accountable for a bad decision no matter how much he’d like to over-look it.  Because she’s not going to be able to move on until it gets dealt with.  

 

     They’re just wonderful, complicated, flawed, conflicted, well-balanced characters, and the writers and actors and directors have managed to convey everything to us in such a way that we can see all the layers upon layers of complexity and literally see what’s going on in their heads and all of the sub-lingual communication that goes on between them.

 

     Even secondary and tertiary characters like Walter, Siler and Kinsey are complex and well-developed in a way that just…pops.

 

     We need more TV like this.  That’s all there is to it.

Thursday, 10 March 2005 10:37:45 (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00) | Comments [5] | #
Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:00:40 (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
I really like Jack. He may come across as a lunkhead, but that's only because that's the image he wants to project. A girl I was in the Classics department at the U and I once had a conversation about the images we project. She and I both tended to wear jeans and tee-shrits with flannel shirts over them, that sort of thing. She said she dressed like that so people would think she was a redneck, and underestimate her. She was one of the smartest people I knew (The U of M Classics department was weird - perhaps the only place I've ever been where I felt like everyone there was smarter than me. It was kind of fun.), and she said she liked it when people - guys especially - made assuptions about her based on how she looked that let her get away with all sorts of stuff. I said I kind of felt the same way. I think Jack is a little like that. he's really very sharp, but wants people to think he's just a typical soldier. I'm actually kind of surprised that he's my favorite character in many ways. His cynical sneer kind of makes him sexy, too.
The Evil Cub
Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:01:42 (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Oh, by the way, I only started watching the show about a month ago, and mostly only because of how you go on about it. Has anyone told you you have excellent taste latley?
The Evil Cub
Thursday, 10 March 2005 17:32:22 (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Seasons one through seven are available for viewing on DVD if you would like.

Trees
Kemaris
Friday, 11 March 2005 19:30:57 (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
If you have them, I'd love to borrow the first one next time we meet.

What do you think, if anything, about the Stargate spinoff?
The Evil Cub
Friday, 11 March 2005 23:39:24 (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Not nearly as good...but it's warming up. I thought McCay way the worst character, but now he's getting interesting. Shepherd is still a stiff. I like Weir quite a lot (although I guess she's not too populare with most of the fan base.) Tayla is uber cool.
kemaris
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