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Thursday, 10 May 2007

It is unbelievable to me that we live in a country where a girl can be kicked out of school for refusing to say the Lord's Prayer at a school function, and Christians can continue to claim that prayer has been taken out of school, and that Christians are a "persecuted" minority.

Lies lies lies.  Doesn't the Bible say something about that?

You can watch the video of this girl's heinous crime here on YouTube

(Hat Tip:  Eclecticsanonymous)

Thursday, 10 May 2007 16:16:30 (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00) | Comments [8] |  | #
Thursday, 10 May 2007 17:21:51 (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Wow, is that disgusting! Idiots like that really bother me. And they call that Christianity? Sheesh.
Thursday, 10 May 2007 19:50:55 (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Neil,

It's frustrating, for sure.
Thursday, 10 May 2007 21:15:04 (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
The most frustrating thing about it for me, is the public power behind it. When folks like that are following you around a University campus and yelling stuff at you about hell and damnation, and calling you a fornocator that's annoying (especially when you are married), but they have their right to stand on a public yard and say whatever they believe just like everyone else.

When they use public power to coerce "belief"...that's not OK.
Friday, 11 May 2007 07:18:25 (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Agreed. Those people are wrong on multiple levels - legally, common courtesy and the grossly ineffective way to share the Gospel. Ick.
Friday, 11 May 2007 07:47:03 (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Personally, I dunno if the Christian belief is true or not. If it IS, I like to harbor this image in my mind of people like that and every other nitwit who has behaved like a violent, ignorant ass in the name of Christianity being met at The Gates by Jesus Himself. And just when they think they got the E-ticket afterlife because hey, the big guy Himself showed up to usher them inside, out comes a lovingly worked clue-by-four engraved with the names of every brain donor to ever act like that in His name. I don't know if Jesus was a real guy and I don't know if He was an aspect of the Divine or not. What I am pretty sure of is that the Jesus I read about would be more inclined to side with the girl and her family than the jerk principal and the public officials who were in cahoots with him.

Jest

Effing

Appalling
Bob Wagner
Friday, 11 May 2007 15:37:22 (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Bob, you are on the right track. The Bible teaches that some who claim to be followers will be rejected by Jesus: Matthew 25:12 - ‘Sir! Sir!’ they said. ‘Open the door for us!’ “But he [Jesus] replied, ‘I tell you the truth, I don’t know you.’

I make it a point not to judge individual souls. God hasn't delegated that to me and I wouldn't want the job. But as the saying goes, there will be plenty of surprises regarding who is and isn't in Heaven.

Please believe me when I say that behavior like that described in the article bothers Christians as much - or more - than it does non-Christians. When in doubt we can look to the Bible to see what Jesus taught. P.S. He was a real historical figure referenced by secular historians outside the Bible. The divinity thing takes a little longer to explain.
Saturday, 12 May 2007 18:09:58 (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Let's not forget, however, that religious kids are getting into trouble for their beliefs and practices taht should be permitted. It depends on the school. What is really sad is the how all these debacles demonstrate the one feature most likely to be lacking from our education system: reason.
a small penguin
Saturday, 12 May 2007 22:21:55 (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Penguin,

Exactly. You can pray in school. You cannot force others to pray in school, or bully them if they don't participate. You can't pray out loud while the teacher is talking. You can read your Bible at recess. You cannot read your Bible when you are supposed to be reading your science textbook. You can question current understandings of the mechanizms of evolution, but you cannot hijack the class and prevent required material from being covered in the time allowed for.

I can certainly see where the establishment clause can get complicated...but most of these cases seem silly and obvious, and unecessary.
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