"Real meaning of life...stuff" - Daniel Jackson
Monday, December 13, 2004

Here’s a bit from Ernie’s 3-D Pancakes.

 

It’s a comment on this article.

 

     Right off the bat, the columnist looses me when she compares teaching to housekeeping.  Now, I’m a homemaker, so I do consider what I do to be a vocation…a labor of love.  Something I feel called to do for my loved ones.  Something I feel makes the lives of those around me richer and better than they otherwise would be.

     But teaching is a noble vocation, and demeaning it by comparing it to cleaning toilets is just wrong.  I admit this is an emotional reaction, not a rational one…but there you go.

     For one thing, I don’t think that we have enough respect for the human dignity and important service of the people who clean our toilets in the first place, so comparing teachers to them is a double slam.

     Secondly, the columnist commits the mistake of comparing the student/teacher relationship with a consumer/vendor or boss/employee relationship.  That is not historically accurate.  It is a modern characterization that is admittedly in conflict with the academic tradition, but I think it is a mistake to ask academic tradition to change to meet this modern idea of the teacher as a servant of the student. 

     I think this because this idea is based on flawed thinking.  Somewhere along the line, we got the idea that the sole value of education was practicality.  We started asking ourselves “When is the student ever going to have to compute pi?”  We stopped viewing education as a process for training the mind, and started thinking of education as a process for creating economically useful human widgets to plug into the machinery of society.

     Now, I know that substantial training of the mind also goes on in public schools to this day.  Many, I would even say most, teachers continue to pursue their vocation tirelessly and valiantly in the face of increasing public apathy…or even hostility to “intellectual elitism”.

     But the public and social value of the trained and disciplined mind is a waning ideal, and this article is an example of that.  While it is true that we alone are the best judges of our own values and thoughts and traditions, there ARE objective measures to learning and standards of achievement.  Each has its place.

     It is the prerogative of a student who, say, has a history of math anxiety and underachievement to put forth tremendous effort, and make tremendous progress, and decide that they feel good about that “C” they received.  It is not, however, their prerogative to decide that they put forth an “A” effort, and that the volume of knowledge they acquired relative to what they began with merits an “A”.

     There is a certain measure of what a student is expected to learn, and no matter how far you have to go to make that mark…your grade reflects how close you are to hitting that mark…not how far you’ve come, not how hard you worked, not how smart and talented you are.  It is no more a judgment than a “you are here” mark on a map showing where you are relative to your destination…it is no more a permanent value than a snapshot taken at any given point in your life.

     That our society translates that into direct job fitness and pay-grade determination is unfortunate.  So you had to take Differential Equations three times before you got your “A” or “B”…you got it in the end, right?  I guess I think that’s what counts…and I think it’s unfortunate that people think we need to change the grading system rather than change our perceptions about grades.

     The competitiveness of our society has made perfection the new standard.  Anything less than an “A” is a blot for anyone hoping to make anything of themselves, and anything under a “B” is a disaster.

     And this has lead to a certain narrowing of our perspective on learning and achievement.  We realize that “A’s” are all important, we realize that more and more students are getting “As”, and  the cost of not getting straight “As” has magnified, and therefore the pressure for grade inflation, or grade devaluation has increased.  This has lead to a backlash of antipathy for “lowering academic standards”, and a call to turn up the pressure cooker on students and student achievement…which I think is wrong because over-all, a student has to do MORE to earn an “A” now days than what I had to do decades ago.

     I think the answer lies more in the direction of a more complicated view of people, society, learning, and achievement.

     Let’s take a step forward and focus down on a specific case for just a moment.  I know a guy who went through grade school, junior high, high school and college with a somewhat spotty academic record.

     He was smart and somewhat hard-working, but he was driven by interests in different directions than his course of study wanted him to go.  So he worked very hard on his areas of interest, and where they overlapped with academic standards he did very well, and where they didn’t he did sufficiently well, but did not distinguish himself.  We’re talking no “Ds” or “Fs” here…but more than a few of “Cs”.

     When he graduated, he applied to a variety of places, but most of the really good companies in his field turned up their noses at his academic record.  One in particular, would only take people with spotless academic records.

     Years later, he is considered to be quite brilliant, and one of the top people in his field.  The company that would not look at him has since tried numerous times to recruit him.

     In the end, it was not he nor his teachers that suffered from his academic record, but all of the potential employers who inappropriately interpreted the grades and what they said about a young man who would have been better represented if they had given more weight to the letters of recommendation given by his employers and professors, or by viewing samples of his work…or even if they had given him an interview.

     I’m not suggesting any particular course of action here…but instead am merely reflecting that it is our society’s own over-emphasis on grades, our own fault of attributing to them values that they are not capable of representing, that has brought grades into question.

     Grades should do nothing more than reflect how close a student has come to mastering the material in a given subject at a particular time.  If we simply must use grades to weed out a certain percentage of resumes to get them down to a manageable number, couldn’t we take a more complex view of them?

     I mean, we can “profile” someone’s age, race, neighborhood and credit card purchasing history to send them carefully selected junk mail that we think might hook them in…can’t we come up with some way of discerning with some degree of accuracy how dedicated, hard-working, creative, they are?

     OK, I know, that’s a little nutty, and a little scary.  But is it really that much crazier than the current mess, where students have come to see so little correlation between their work, their achievement, their grades and their ultimate success in life that they can seriously, and with a straight face challenge the rights of their Professors to give them grades at all?

     So, in case I lost you in my rambling way, what I’m saying is that we are not damaging grades by making them too hard to get, or too easy to get.  We are damaging grades by trying to make them represent something that they cannot possibly be made to represent.  Also, that we are not damaging education by making it too easy or too hard, but instead by limiting the scope of its perceived value and role; we are focusing on its use as an economic tool, and neglecting its role in creating disciplined, vigorous, questing minds.  Finally, we are not hurting teachers by holding them too accountable, or not accountable enough, but we are hurting them by treating them as employees and servants of the students instead of as professionals serving a vocation where their first duty is the preservation, development and dissemination of knowledge.

Monday, December 13, 2004 10:42:30 AM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00) | Comments [8] |  |  | #
Monday, December 13, 2004 1:03:05 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
" I think the answer lies more in the direction of a more complicated view of people, society, learning, and achievement."

Didn't the last 'election' teach you that complicated = evil?
The Evil Cub
Monday, December 13, 2004 2:46:06 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Cub,

And you are very, very evil...

...or so I hear...

trees
kemaris
Tuesday, December 14, 2004 7:05:07 AM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
And personal responsibility rolls over in its grave once again. *sigh*

One of the big problems today is that a lot of kids are expecting the auto-education. They feel they are entitled to an education whether they do anything about it or not. And at a liberal-arts college, of course...a trade school? Never! Silly people.

Now admittedly, I might fall under this category. I poured quite a bit of cash into the coffers of the U of MN, and still don't have a degree. But in retrospect, I know this is my fault. It was tough to see in my early 20's.

In the early teens and 20's my Grandfather left the farm and his 7 (8?) siblings and headed off for college. Only a couple of his siblings also made it through high school. After a short time, he was able to become a school teacher in a country school. He went off to war, went back to school, got married, and then trekked from southern Michigan to Columbia University in New York to get himself a Master's Degree. Not one cent came from his parents.

Rambling here.... I think people are entitled to access to education, but the education that would do them the most good. Maybe we need to quit pressuring kids to go immediately into college from high school. Life experience helps....

I should never try to put together more than three sentences before 9 am and/or coffee...it's too early...sorry!
Kaji
Tuesday, December 14, 2004 9:02:35 AM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
I'm a graduate student at a large midwestern university. I'm in the German department. We have what I consider to be a real problem with grading when it comes to undergradates. (There's a separate problem with grading graduates, but I won't discuss it here and now.) Basically, the program has two goal: academic integrity and keeping up enrollment numbers. Guess which one wins out when it comes to grading? Yep, gotta keep the little shits happy so that they'll come back and take the class again. Basically, they usually can pass with seat time and a minimal amount of effort (i.e. turning in homework) in the first two years of German language education. This makes most people pretty happy, but I think that there is something wrong with a system that will fail someone who can get As on every exam because they didn't bother doing the homework that for them was just busy work. Some students need homework as a study aid. Others don't. You have to do both to get an A in our program.

(On a side note, the use of "they" as a non-gender specific 3rd person singular pronoun goes back at least as far as Shakespeare. So, don't get your undies in a knot the next time that someone opts to use "they" instead of deciding between "he" or "she".)
alenaa
Tuesday, December 14, 2004 11:27:26 AM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Alenaa,

I don't think you have to be too defensive about the use of the word "they"...although I imagine you, like me, have had to argue that one a few times. Most people accept it...and only a few hard-core English wonks with too little experiance with etymology really bother to fight it.

...and we all know that they only count when they are your high-school English teacher...and only for as long as they are your high school English teacher (yes, Mr. Phillipich, I am talking about you. Oh and BTW, I am not a loser, and while I'm at it, You're the only man I know who looks that bad in a three piece suit, Herbalife sucks and you looked really stupid wearing that pin advertizing it, and no matter how much you worship Dale Carnigie, no one will ever like you...oh, and that paper you failed me on? I recycled it for Freshman english in college and got an "A", it was not a "Stupid Premise", and I DID "support it adequately", it turns out...God...I feel...cleansed, somehow).

Trees
Kemaris
Tuesday, December 14, 2004 12:16:15 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Okay...take a deep breath, Trees. High School ended at least a few months ago for you. It's time to put the petty minded dictators behind you. They don't deserve to be able to cause so much disruption to your feelings.

If I were in charge, I'd make sure that everyone could get as much education as they wanted without having to put themselves into debt for twenty years, or signing their lives over to the military to pay for it. Education is a good thing in and of itself.
The Evil Cub
Sunday, January 16, 2005 9:49:38 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Speaking of education, the very first line LOSES me when the writer states "Right off the bat, the columnist looses me when..." etc. So, the writer is feeling a little "loose"? Try not to confuse LOSE with LOOSE... the difference can be embarrassing.

Oh, and "Trees", the name is Carnegie, not Carnigie. Whatever devil you curse, be sure the name is spelled correctly, else YOU become the laughing stock.
Spellerman (fighting bad grammar & typos everywhere)
Sunday, December 04, 2005 9:35:53 AM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
You're completely right. Typos trump all other argument.

We should treat teachers like janitors, and do away with all objective measures of student success.

Also, the writer is completely responsible for any dirty thoughts her typos might cause in the filthy minds of her readers.

Wow. I bet you feel really smart now. Good for you.

I'd give you an "A" if I thought it would help your self-esteeem at all.
kemaris
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